I think it is telling that you say you grieve for Palestinians lives lost as you would for fascist civilians in Germany. This when 3000 children have lost their lives in the last month.
Why do you need to believe the propaganda that the numbers of Palestinian dead are inflated when we know that there has been a relentless bombing campaign from October 7th. What number would you say is believable or acceptable? The evidence is that the Palestinian Health Ministry provide accurate figures from morgues and hospitals to reach its figures. They released a 212-page document on the 27th October with names and identity numbers of those killed - mostly women and children. The UN and Human Rights Watch say these figures are credible.
You are fooling yourseslf if you think Israel is conducting a professional campaign that minimises casulties. Israel is committing a war crimes by depriving Palestinians of water, electricity and indiscriminate bombings. The claim Israel makes that Hamas have installed their operations under hospitals is a claim to excuse bombing hospitals - also a war crime.
What you are proposing, in claiming that the surrounding Arab countries, should take in Palestinian refuges is further ethnic cleansing - the first being the Nakba in 1948 when Israeli terrorists drove Palestinians from their homes. Arab countries do not want to participate in helping Israel move the Palestinians from the remaining land they live in.
There is a coordinated effort calling for a ceasefire. The United Nations General Assembly has passed a resolution calling for an immediate humanitarian truce between Israel and Hamas and demanding aid access to Gaza. A total of 120 countries voted in favour of the resolution, 14 countries voted against including Israel and the United States, while 45 others abstained. Why is that Israel is so isolated if what you say is true?
The Palestinians can not be compared to fascists as they are the people under siege by Israel and it is Israel that perpetuates a racist and dehumanising ideology against the Palestinians as the article states and which you ignore. But you use dehumanising language to. To describe the attack of Hamas on Israel as a pogrom is an attempt to mislead by suggesting mindless racism when you know, if as you say you have studied the history, the issue dates back to the original theft of the land by the Zionists. Hamas has stated their recent attack was in response to the desecration of the Al Aqsa mosque, the blockade of the Gaza Strip, continued Israeli settlements, and Israeli settler violence.
No I did not celebrate the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Centre - to suggest I would is really quiet a leap of imagination. I can only see this as the desparate attempt to smear people who support the Palestinians as supporters of ISIS. I was horrified that the US attacked Afghanistan after the attack and I protested the decision by the UK government to support the subsequent US invasion of Iraq on a completely false premise that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. US military adventures in the region have been a disaster for the people that live there.
As soon as Palestinian fighters from Gaza crossed into the southern border of Israel, killing hundreds, not a single Israeli politician, analyst or mainstream intellectual seemed interested in the context of the daring act.
Pearl Moon
As soon as Hamas terrorists bulldozed the border wall to illegally cross into Israeli territory, proceeding to maim, rape, torture, kill and desecrate the bodies of a least 1,400 unarmed civilians, not a single Israeli politician, analyst or mainstream intellectual seemed interested in viewing it as anything other than a pogrom.
And I'm neither Jewish, Israeli or a Zionist. An atheist Australian who was formerly a Palestinian sympathiser. As a great man once said "You can't fool all of the people all of the time".
Why do you think Israeli lives are worth so much more than Palestinian lives? Do you think that depriving a civilian population (almost half of whom are children) of water, food, medicine, shelter whilst continuously dropping bombs on them is more clinical than what Hamas did? How are we to believe you were ever a Palestinian sympathiser - every Palestininian sympathiser I know is grieving tonight.
The legal govt of Palestine - Hamas - hides in tunnels under Gaza city, intentionally keeping as many as possible of their own people above as human shields. They cynically co-opt inflated death toll figures to whip up sympathy from useful idiots in the West. The "shortages" are purposely created by Hamas for propaganda. They drained the aquifers when the tunnels were created. The use the tunnels to bring in bombs, not food or medical aid. They use fuel supplies to maintain electricity and air conditioning in the tunnels.
Today the evidence is being provided that the main Hamas military operations are underneath the biggest hospital in Gaza. That is a war crime perpetuated by Hamas firstly on its own people, then on the rest of the world.
What are other middle eastern countries doing to supply aid? offer refuge? Nada. The whole of the Islamist world are happy to sacrifice Palestinians for the joy of celebrating the deaths of Jews.
Why isn't there a coordinated international effort to call for Hamas to ceasefire? Calls for Hamas to stop bombing Israel, immediately release the hostages and to surrender to an international coalition?
This is some of the answers to your question why I stopped being a Palestinian sympathiser - I educated myself and accept that Israel is a nation with a legitimate right to exist and to protect its borders.
The question you should be asking yourself is why do you support the known terrorist organisation Hamas when it treats its own people with such murderous disdain?
I grieve for Palestinian lives lost rather in the same way that we felt sorry when Nazi supporting German citizens were killed in bombing raids during WW2. My compassion genuinely goes to the 1,400 people who were murdered, raped, dismembered, tortured and had their corpses desecrated by monsters who were fulfilling the instructions of Hamas. A pogrom is not a credible nation building activity. A professionally conducted military operation in defense, which attempts to minimise civilian casualties, is a warranted and legitimate reaction.
Were you one of those of those people out in the streets after the World Trade Centre was bought down who celebrated? Were you telling the USA it had no right to strike back against its enemies? Were you protesting when innocent Afghanis were collateral damage? Have you checked which direction the arrow is pointing on your moral compass lately?
I think it is telling that you say you grieve for Palestinians lives lost as you would for fascist civilians in Germany. This when 3000 children have lost their lives in the last month.
Why do you need to believe the propaganda that the numbers of Palestinian dead are inflated when we know that there has been a relentless bombing campaign from October 7th. What number would you say is believable or acceptable? The evidence is that the Palestinian Health Ministry provide accurate figures from morgues and hospitals to reach its figures. They released a 212-page document on the 27th October with names and identity numbers of those killed - mostly women and children. The UN and Human Rights Watch say these figures are credible.
You are fooling yourseslf if you think Israel is conducting a professional campaign that minimises casulties. Israel is committing a war crimes by depriving Palestinians of water, electricity and indiscriminate bombings. The claim Israel makes that Hamas have installed their operations under hospitals is a claim to excuse bombing hospitals - also a war crime.
What you are proposing, in claiming that the surrounding Arab countries, should take in Palestinian refuges is further ethnic cleansing - the first being the Nakba in 1948 when Israeli terrorists drove Palestinians from their homes. Arab countries do not want to participate in helping Israel move the Palestinians from the remaining land they live in.
There is a coordinated effort calling for a ceasefire. The United Nations General Assembly has passed a resolution calling for an immediate humanitarian truce between Israel and Hamas and demanding aid access to Gaza. A total of 120 countries voted in favour of the resolution, 14 countries voted against including Israel and the United States, while 45 others abstained. Why is that Israel is so isolated if what you say is true?
The Palestinians can not be compared to fascists as they are the people under siege by Israel and it is Israel that perpetuates a racist and dehumanising ideology against the Palestinians as the article states and which you ignore. But you use dehumanising language to. To describe the attack of Hamas on Israel as a pogrom is an attempt to mislead by suggesting mindless racism when you know, if as you say you have studied the history, the issue dates back to the original theft of the land by the Zionists. Hamas has stated their recent attack was in response to the desecration of the Al Aqsa mosque, the blockade of the Gaza Strip, continued Israeli settlements, and Israeli settler violence.
No I did not celebrate the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Centre - to suggest I would is really quiet a leap of imagination. I can only see this as the desparate attempt to smear people who support the Palestinians as supporters of ISIS. I was horrified that the US attacked Afghanistan after the attack and I protested the decision by the UK government to support the subsequent US invasion of Iraq on a completely false premise that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. US military adventures in the region have been a disaster for the people that live there.
Which statement reflects reality?
Ramzy Baroud
As soon as Palestinian fighters from Gaza crossed into the southern border of Israel, killing hundreds, not a single Israeli politician, analyst or mainstream intellectual seemed interested in the context of the daring act.
Pearl Moon
As soon as Hamas terrorists bulldozed the border wall to illegally cross into Israeli territory, proceeding to maim, rape, torture, kill and desecrate the bodies of a least 1,400 unarmed civilians, not a single Israeli politician, analyst or mainstream intellectual seemed interested in viewing it as anything other than a pogrom.
And I'm neither Jewish, Israeli or a Zionist. An atheist Australian who was formerly a Palestinian sympathiser. As a great man once said "You can't fool all of the people all of the time".
Why do you think Israeli lives are worth so much more than Palestinian lives? Do you think that depriving a civilian population (almost half of whom are children) of water, food, medicine, shelter whilst continuously dropping bombs on them is more clinical than what Hamas did? How are we to believe you were ever a Palestinian sympathiser - every Palestininian sympathiser I know is grieving tonight.
Heres a Palestinian I totally agree with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8YYmrgAeqw&ab_channel=PiersMorganUncensored
The legal govt of Palestine - Hamas - hides in tunnels under Gaza city, intentionally keeping as many as possible of their own people above as human shields. They cynically co-opt inflated death toll figures to whip up sympathy from useful idiots in the West. The "shortages" are purposely created by Hamas for propaganda. They drained the aquifers when the tunnels were created. The use the tunnels to bring in bombs, not food or medical aid. They use fuel supplies to maintain electricity and air conditioning in the tunnels.
Today the evidence is being provided that the main Hamas military operations are underneath the biggest hospital in Gaza. That is a war crime perpetuated by Hamas firstly on its own people, then on the rest of the world.
What are other middle eastern countries doing to supply aid? offer refuge? Nada. The whole of the Islamist world are happy to sacrifice Palestinians for the joy of celebrating the deaths of Jews.
Why isn't there a coordinated international effort to call for Hamas to ceasefire? Calls for Hamas to stop bombing Israel, immediately release the hostages and to surrender to an international coalition?
This is some of the answers to your question why I stopped being a Palestinian sympathiser - I educated myself and accept that Israel is a nation with a legitimate right to exist and to protect its borders.
The question you should be asking yourself is why do you support the known terrorist organisation Hamas when it treats its own people with such murderous disdain?
I grieve for Palestinian lives lost rather in the same way that we felt sorry when Nazi supporting German citizens were killed in bombing raids during WW2. My compassion genuinely goes to the 1,400 people who were murdered, raped, dismembered, tortured and had their corpses desecrated by monsters who were fulfilling the instructions of Hamas. A pogrom is not a credible nation building activity. A professionally conducted military operation in defense, which attempts to minimise civilian casualties, is a warranted and legitimate reaction.
Were you one of those of those people out in the streets after the World Trade Centre was bought down who celebrated? Were you telling the USA it had no right to strike back against its enemies? Were you protesting when innocent Afghanis were collateral damage? Have you checked which direction the arrow is pointing on your moral compass lately?