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Sylvia Bern's avatar

'British diplomats have told me that discussions in Qatar have so far held back the Israeli ground offensive, but I am not convinced that Israel really wished to do this yet. *They are having sadistic fun shooting children in a barrel*.'

You are suggesting that Israel enjoys killing children? Have you seen the videos of Hammas terrorists 'enjoying' the raping & murdering of women & children?

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We are living through a period of 'left' authoritarians whose identarian politics promote critical race theory and gender identity ideology - endangering freedom of speech and assembly, and generally questioning enlightenment values. The right has been challenging this as have others, particularly women, who perceive gender identity ideology as a threat to women and children.

But in the Israel-Palestine conflict we now have 'right' authoritarians trying to shut down free speech claiming we are anti -semitic if we protest against Israel's war crimes and demand a just peace. We do have a right to question Israel's policy of occupation and indeed to question the existence of the Israeli state - it is not anti-semitic to do so.

Even before Britain divided Ireland between the northern Irish protestant settler population and the native Irish catholic population James Connoly, who took part in the Easter uprising of 1916, warned of the consequences. He predicted it would “mean a carnival of reaction both North and South”. And he was right. Partition was a terrible mistake leading to 30 years of armed resistance from 1969. It is easy to empathise with the desire of jewish people for their own homeland but the land they occupied was not empty of people and in order to set up their state they committed acts of terrorism. It is a settler state - and acts like a settler state as far as I can see. And what makes it worse is USA providing the military support it needs for its own geo-political intersts. I don't know why you think there is anything about the pre-1948 history that mitigates that.

As for the toppling of Colston - that too has a history. Thanks to Bristol's Society of Merchant Venturers (committed to promoting slave trading) Bristol was by the 18th century Britain's primary slave trading port. Colston made his money from trading in and exploiting slaves yet because of the Society of Merchant Venturers he was honoured all over the city as a wise and virtuous man e.g. my daughter went to Colston Primary. There had been petitions calling for his statues removal for years and in 2018 it was agreed by the City Council that the plaque on Colston's statue would be changed to explain his links to the slave trade. The Society of Merchant Venturers interfered with the wording. So it wasn't just Black Lives Matter protestors, on an impromtu demo. The protestors were taken to Court and were found not guilty by the jury determining that to convinct protestors for removing a statute that glorified a slave trader was not proportionate. We can choose to change who we honour without it necessarily being 'a cancellation'.

Human history is different. You want to believe that humans are brutal but then why argue? Surely the reason we argue is because whilst life is brutal - slavery is brutal, concentration camps are brutal - humans are capable of great acts of individual and collective humanity. We have created, however imperfect international law related to war crimes. This is an achievement and it dishonours us when Israel flouts international law and the USA and the UK encourage them to do this with impunity. If we do this, how can we hold other regimes to account without being accused of hypocrisy?

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